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PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:21 pm 
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I have an early toploader 4-speed with the narrow bolt pattern. Wondering what I need to install it in my 54 with a 1962, 292 cu. in. engine and 3-speed stick. I believe the bellhousing is from the 239 engine and the 3-speed is original. Thanks...Scott


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:38 pm 
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It depends on the toploader you have. Generally the front bearing retainer has to be turned down to fit . You need to check the input shaft length, there are two different lenghts. The shorter one fits OK . There are two different input shaft diameters 1 1/16 and 1 3/8-- each takes a different clutch ,pressure plate and throwout bearing setup , also the clutch release arms are different between the big and small input shafts

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:10 pm 
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I have done this with my 54 with a 312.

The trans you probably have is an early one (64 or so) which is the one I used (these are small block trans'). The later 4 speeds had the dual top pattern or just the wide top pattern.The input shaft needs to be cut off about 3/8 of an inch (measure this as yours may be different). Measuring the length on your 3 speed should give you the length for the 4 speed.

The front bearing retainer diameter needs to be cut down a sconch to fit in the bellhousing hole.

Centerforce makes a pressure plate and disc that will fit. The have them in different diameters to fit your flywheel. You may have to modify/machine the center portion of the flywheel to make the pressure plate to work correctly. The unit I bought had a warning about this.

I used a stock throw out bearing.

The big input shaft units were for big blocks (FE's) and the shafts were shorter and will require a special pilot bearing/bushing.



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I have an early toploader 4-speed with the narrow bolt pattern. Wondering what I need to install it in my 54 with a 1962, 292 cu. in. engine and 3-speed stick. I believe the bellhousing is from the 239 engine and the 3-speed is original. Thanks...Scott

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:50 am 
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Good information Paul,I'm saving this for a future project.

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