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 Post subject: 302/AOD Swap
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:16 pm 
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I know this is biting off a big chunk for a thread but I think a good addition to our Tech section will be a thread dedicated solely to the common 302/AOD swap for a 54 Ford car.

In this thread, we'll discuss the specific things that need to be done....some of them can vary a bit (we'll try to cover all the variances) and some of them you cannot change (like the front sump oil pan).

We'll also post part numbers, where to buy the parts, and lots and lots of photos.

I'll even make a video or two and post it.

Even if you only have part of the 302/AOD swap like Hotrodprimer (he used a manual trans), that input is welcome too.

Hopefully JeffB will chime in here. I consider him the guru of this swap.

I'll kick it off....

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:25 pm 
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For Motor Mounts I used mounts for a mid 80's V8 Mustang.

These mounts fit the 302 (obviously) and require ZERO modifications to the stock 54 Ford chassis mounting brackets. This is a bolt-on part. Gotta love that.

At O'Reilly's, the part numbers are Anchor 2725 and Anchor 2726. If you get a doofus counter-person, just ask for mounts for a 1986 Mustang with a 302.

Note: the two motor mounts are NOT the same....the bolt that goes into the crossmember is off-center on one of them. They'll work on either side. One version places the engine right up against the firewall with about 1/4" clearance and if you swap them, it places the engine substantially forward (the latter is how mine is set up).

I suppose a person could also buy two 2725's or two 2726's. However, I used one of each and my 302 is sitting pretty straight in the chassis.


UPDATE: (6/23/2014) We're starting to hear stories about the Anchor brand motor mounts separating due to the low quality of the rubber they're using and the fact that they're made in China now. Higher quality replacements are the Prothane mounts. Search for "Prothane 6-501-BL - Prothane Ford Motor & Transmission Mounts" on Jegs, Summit and on eBay.

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 Post subject: Re: 302/AOD Swap OIL PAN
PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 6:52 pm 
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File this next part under "non-negotiable"

You need a front sump oil pan to clear the crossmember. Fortunately, V8 Mustangs from the 60's and early 70's had front sump pans.

I found this on on eBay for $29. I paid more than that though, for a pan with a baffle in it. (the thought of all the oil rushing to the back of the pan under hard acceleration made me a bit queasy. :oops:

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If you want to go the OReilly, Autozone route, they will order one for you and have it in a few days. Just specify an oil pan for a 1968 Mustang with a 302.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:07 pm 
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To compliment the front sump pan, you'll have to have a front sump oil pickup/screen.

Melling makes an excellent one (part number 68S) which can be found for under $15 at the parts houses.

Again....specify 1968 Mustang with a 302 if asked. I think the official name for the part is "Oil Pump Screen Assembly"

This is also a bolt-on part.

Here's what it looks like:


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 Post subject: Re: 302/AOD Swap
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Changing to a front sump oil pan creates an issue with the stock oil dipstick on a late model 302....so you'll need a dipstick that goes down into the front sump to measure oil at that location.

This is solved with a timing cover that has provisions for an oil dipstick.

Again, we go to the 1968 Mustang 302 at the parts counter.

Here's a Dorman cover (part # 635-107) with the gasket and front seal at OReilly. As with all of the other parts, they're available elsewhere, including eBay, and other parts stores.

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 Post subject: Re: 302/AOD Swap
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as an FYI, the boss is in the fuel injection timing cover for the dipstick. You can drill a hole and install a dipstick and not need the fuel pump block off.

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 Post subject: Re: 302/AOD Swap
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Ohio54 wrote:
as an FYI, the boss is in the fuel injection timing cover for the dipstick. You can drill a hole and install a dipstick and not need the fuel pump block off.


Good point....thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: 302/AOD Swap
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Ohio54 wrote:
as an FYI, the boss is in the fuel injection timing cover for the dipstick. You can drill a hole and install a dipstick and not need the fuel pump block off.

What year and model of ford has the fi timing cover with a boss that can be drilled?
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 Post subject: Re: 302/AOD Swap
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Ralph, I believe 87/88 did. If it looks as if the fuel pump is missing but could go in place, the dipstick boss will be there.
The list below is not complete I believe, my 87 Mercury had the boss for the mechanical fuel pump, but it was blank (no hole) I'll try to dig it out one day.

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 Post subject: Re: 302/AOD Swap
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One thing we found out on many of the 1954-59 Ford 302 swaps was that in many cases the factory frame pads were slightly off in many cases, these pictures will also show how to fix that before dropping in the engine http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/albu ... umid=41498 Also you will see the AOD sitting on the stock '54 trans cross member using the ANCHOR 2253 mount,sadly ANCHOR and most other mounts are being outsourced and the rubber from China and India has been failing and separating this may cost more but a better option: http://www.jegs.com/i/Prothane/311/6-50 ... oreDetails This is the transmission mount for C4 & AOD http://www.jegs.com/i/Prothane/311/6-16 ... ProductId=

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